Episode 19: Rona Pondick

We talked to Rona Pondick about Egyptian art, having ideas and not having ideas, how people are just animals, how long it takes Rona to make a sculpture, death, process and scary teeth.

Episode 18: Jen Ray

Jen Ray puts together stylishly feminist drawings and performance pieces of amazon women using fantastic imagery drawn from rock's trippy and fantastic side. We talk about drawing, music, politics and the seedy side of childhood.

Episode 17: Al Jaffee

Al Jaffee has quite literaly been making cartoons longer than any artist in history. Unfortunately for everyone involved, he works at Mad Magazine.




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Episode 16: Sean McCarthy

Sean McCarthy makes deliriously detailed drawings of anxious monsters. We talk about the monsters, the grotesque in general and being a weirdo artist from Cormac McCarthy's Texas.



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Episode 15: Drew Heitzler

Drew Heitzler is a conceptual artist and occasional curator who works in a variety of media. We talk about how you represent a train of thought, what's harder: making art or curating it?, working at CBGBs, being a dirtbag, the town of Goose Creek, Thomas Pynchon, Los Angeles as an art subject, philosophy, art fairs, owning a bar, and octopuses.

Episode 14: Valerie Hegarty

Valerie Hegarty's sculptures show nature reclaiming art. and history and often get mistaken for actual decay. One piece is attacked by a woodpecker, another harpooned, another one has an an idea she totally stole from her Dad. We talk about experiment, craft and being a consummate wiseass.

Nicholas Di Genova

Nicholas Di Genova (aka medium) is a painter, sculptor and street artist who makes art about mutant monsters. We talk about all that plus ecology, scale, his urban and rural phases, plus the worst dentist in history and more.


Episode 12: Ganzeer

Ganzeer paints,draws, designs, makes street art and comics and was chased out of Egypt for being a dissident. We talk about where his ideas come from, how he puts them together and what it was like to be in the middle of Cairo as the revolution was happening.

Episode 11 Jane Dickson

Jane Dickson makes psychologically loaded paintings about light, darkness, the city, and the people who live there. We talk about all that of course, plus Jane gives us some great details about the New York art scene in the 80s—where everyone from Kiki Smith to Basquiat seemed to know each other and hang out. 


Episode 10: Jon Pylypchuk

John Pylypchuk makes paintings and sculptures of pathetic little creatures in the grip of massive forces they'll never understand.We talk about John's collective, the Royal Art Lodge, being a rock dude, running your own gallery and more.


Episode 9: Trenton Doyle Hancock

Trenton Doyle Hancock's delirious paintings, prints, drawings, performances, toys, books and sculptures depict a complex mythological world that comments on the one we live in. We talk about a childhood of horror movies and Christianity, the process of painting, Philip Guston, German Expressionism, rhythm and poetry, the nature of storytelling in pictures, Havok and Wolverine: Meltdown and having your paintings made into a ballet.

Episode 8: Molly Crabapple

Molly Crabapple is a journalist/artist who just put out the memoir Drawing Blood. We talk about the book, and about New York, activism, art vs illustration, artistic lineage and how you go from being a naked art student to an international correspondent with work in the MOMA.

Episode 7: Ted Mineo

Ted Mineo makes objects that shouldn't exist--mixtures of lurid color and uncanny texture. We talk about a lot of things, including how they relate to fibrelglass New Orleans restaurant food ad sculptures.

Episode 6: Mark Thomas Gibson

Mark Thomas Gibson makes powerfully graphic paintings oozing with poetic weirdness. We talked all about that, plus how Mark's depiction of himself as a werewolf relates to the way the world sees race and the genesis of a show he helped curate featuring contemporary black fine artists side-by-side with black comics artists.


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Episode 5: Mary Reid Kelly

Mary Reid Kelley has just been officially declared a genius by the MacArthur foundation. We talked to her about her densely allusive videos that refer to classical mythology and literature and freak everyone out plus puns, the nature of collaboration, racism as original sin, the minotaur as house-proud, church volleyball as a theater of toxic masculinity, funny-scary, AC Swinburne and Slayer as terminal artists, how Ophelia can't even, crying to your art dealer and much more.

Episode 4: Raymond Pettibon

Raymond Pettibon is known for the pulpy intensity of his ink drawings and the cryptic text that accompanies them. Nowadays he shows in museums and galleries all over the world, but when he started he was just a guy who was studying economics and drew some album covers for his brother who was in a band called Black Flag. We talk about all of that--plus weird brushes.

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Episode 3: Carolina Miranda

Carolina Miranda is an art editor and art writer at the LA Times. We talked about how she ended up doing that and what that's like, plus garages, being a fox in a world of hedgehoggy writers, dick jokes, recording the shitshow of art for humanity and more...

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Episode 2: Diana Cooper

Diana Cooper makes wonderfully detailed microcosmic abstractions that start with painting and drawing and then go where they need to from there. She got like a Guggenheim grant and a 10-year retrospective at the Cleveland MOCA and is generally a badass. We talk about painting, dancing, music, frustration, tiny worlds and other things.