Episode 36: Deborah Roberts

We got to talk to rising star Deborah Roberts in maybe? her first long interview about process, the world through the eyes of little girls, Tanner and Normal Rockwell, getting called "African", being fierce, hungry collectors, Roland Barthes as the Beastie Boys of critical theory, how Skechers just needs to stop making shoes, Good Times and Rudolph, the boy in grade-school she became an artist to impress